The Challenges of Dividing Pension Plans and Retirement Accounts in a Gray Divorce
Getting divorced later in life comes with unique challenges. If you or your spouse have already retired or can see retirement close on the horizon, you will likely have concerns about how to ensure you are financially secure in the golden years of your life. I’ve seen very unhealthy relationships, and it’s sometimes just as heartbreaking to watch that as it is to see them split up…but I understand their fear.
In a “gray divorce,” or one that typically involves people older than 50, dividing assets can get complicated. If you’re facing this situation, you’ll need to work with an experienced divorce attorney/mediator. I also strongly recommend older couples consider using the collaborative divorce process because doing so allows you to work with a team of people–including financial experts–skilled in helping you come to mutually satisfying resolutions rather than leaving the big decisions up to a judge.
Here are just a few of the special considerations and unique challenges you may have to deal with in a gray divorce.
Retirement Accounts, Pensions, and Social Security
Retirement accounts, including 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts (IRAs), are typically considered joint assets even though only one person’s name is on an account. Of course, there are significant tax ramifications if things are not handled correctly, so it’s vital to have a good CPA and financial advisor involved, as well as a knowledgeable California divorce attorney. If one person’s 401(k) is larger than the other person’s, you may need to file a qualified domestic relations order (QDRO) with the court which allows you to specify how the money will be divided. Money will then be transferred from one 401(k) to another one without incurring immediate tax penalties. You don’t need a QDRO to transfer money from one IRA to another, but this is something you should do with the help of the right professionals.
Pensions acquired during marriage are also considered joint assets. If only one party has a pension, the other party will likely be entitled to some of it depending on how many years during the marriage pension money was being earned. This is the same principle generally applied to dividing up the money in retirement accounts. However, dividing up pensions can be a lot more complicated, especially if withdrawals have already started being made.
Social Security benefits and payouts are controlled by law, so there isn’t anything to divide or negotiate. However, I have seen couples take these benefits into consideration when negotiating other monies coming from retirement accounts, pensions, life insurance policies, and other assets.
Lately I’ve seen more and more couples really struggle with situations where only one person has a pension or a retirement account and he or she worked for years–or decades–to earn it. Perhaps one spouse was self-employed, yet the other had a job where they contributed to a 401(k) with a company match. Or maybe one person worked for decades while their spouse stayed home to care for young children. People can get pretty territorial about what they consider to be his or her “own” money and emotions can run high during these discussions.
Being able to work though the total value of all benefits within a supportive collaborative divorce process is absolutely the best way to make sure both parties feel they’re exploring all the possible options to reach an amicable agreement. With a team supporting you in having difficult but productive discussions, you’re far more likely to get past feelings of resentment or being cheated out of what you feel you deserve. The more complicated the financial situation, the more beneficial a collaborative divorce process is likely to be.
This May Sound Like a Joke, But You Can (and Should) Avoid Irritating the Judge
If you’ve been married for a long time and have acquired property and assets over the years, there are some issues that make a traditional court divorce more tedious and stressful. For example, sometimes the transactions are so old that the paper records are gone or have been misplaced. Memory fades, and the two parties recall the details of the acquisition differently, and then they’re faced with the unenviable task of tracking down and locating the original paperwork. What was the original value of that property and under what conditions or agreements were they purchased? So many questions! Judges don’t like dealing with these situations as they are required to make rulings based on reviewing actual “evidence” - documents authenticated by a person who knows the record is true, and has supporting testimony to present.
In many cases, you will need to hire an expert to trace and confirm a paper trail and identify the original value of a property or asset. This is expensive and time consuming, and on top of that, there will also be cross examinations by the opposing person’s attorney. Judges get frustrated as this takes up loads of their time, and both attorneys have to do more preparation. Even when the trial has ended, there is another 90 days before the judge has to make a ruling.
The Collaborative Divorce Process Is Much Better for Dealing with Long-held Assets
The last thing you want in an already expensive, time-consuming, and emotionally charged divorce is to deal with a judge who is losing patience. In a collaborative divorce, there’s no judge who will impose a final decision about a complicated situation, and he won’t be irritated by the process which is a good thing for both you and your spouse! Instead, you can work out trades and negotiations between the two of you, and anything goes as you consider all of your assets. Because it’s just the two of you working things out (with the support of your collaborative team), you can converse comfortably and discuss the history of the purchases and acquisitions, and you can jog one another’s memory. You might even find yourselves sharing a positive experience as you think back on a better time. You can discuss and decide within a wide range of settlement options rather than laying everything before the court in a somewhat adversarial way and then waiting for the judge to hand down a unilateral and final judgment. Trust me, rarely does anyone like all of the judge’s ruling. People often even trade off assets as they figure out spousal support in order to come to a more palatable option.
However, please understand that you will not always get what you want. Sometimes people enter the collaborative process thinking they can negotiate themselves a better deal to the detriment of their spouse. Without a paper trail, they abuse the process, purposefully planning to be dishonest about what they remember, especially if one person handled the money throughout the marriage or has a better memory or a sharper mind for finances. If you have concerns about this, be very open about it with your attorney and consider their advice as you decide how to proceed. The collaborative divorce process has a lot of support built into it, but it’s not necessarily the best solution for every situation–at least not without proper planning and selection of expert team members. The process is built on a commitment of transparency, and if that is not followed, then this may not be the best option for your situation. The attorneys are duty-bound to withdraw from the process of there is a belief that his/her client is being dishonest.
The Bottom Line
Dividing assets in a gray divorce can be a complicated, overwhelming, and emotionally taxing process, but choosing to work with a collaborative divorce team rather than leaving all the financial decisions up to a judge in a traditional court divorce is often the better choice.
Please schedule a confidential consultation with me to discuss your no-court California divorce options. I would love to help you decide if the collaborative process is right for you.
If you would like to meet with our office to review your divorce situation, please reach out to me via JMB@jeannebrowne.com to schedule an appointment.
10 Reasons Why You Shouldn’t Post on Social Media During Your Divorce Process
Divorce can be an emotionally turbulent time, and social media might seem like a good outlet to vent or seek support. However, it's crucial to understand that what you post online can have significant consequences on your divorce proceedings. What you say can and will be held against you - don’t make your divorce any harder than it has to be.
1. Privacy Protection
Sharing details about your divorce on social media can lead to unwanted public scrutiny and invasion of privacy. Once information is online, it can be shared, screenshot, or archived, making it nearly impossible to erase. This exposure can add stress and complicate your divorce proceedings. By keeping your divorce matters private, you protect not only your personal information but also your dignity and peace of mind during this challenging time.
2. Legal Implications
Social media posts can be subpoenaed and used as evidence in court. For example, comments or messages could be interpreted as admissions of fault or contradict statements made under oath. It's important to remember that anything you post can potentially be scrutinized by lawyers and judges, affecting the outcome of your divorce.
3. Emotional Well-being
Divorce is an emotionally charged process, and social media can amplify negative feelings. Seeing your ex-spouse's posts, mutual friends taking sides, or encountering judgmental comments can increase stress and hinder your emotional recovery. Taking a break from social media allows you to focus on self-care and healing without the added pressure of maintaining an online presence.
4. Protecting Your Children
If you and your partner had any children together, it’s also important to think about them during this time. It’s easy to access information and let's face it, our kids tend to be more tech-savvy than we are, reading negative comments about their parents is not what a child needs during this vulnerable time. By refraining from posting about your divorce, you protect your children from unnecessary emotional distress.
Posting about your late-late habits of meeting others in bars or casinos for rounds of alcoholic beverages may be interpreted as leaving your children during your parenting time to fend for themselves, instead of spending quality time with your kids.
5. Financial Consequences
Your social media activity can inadvertently affect the financial aspects of your divorce. Displaying a lavish lifestyle such as purchasing new vehicles or traveling often could impact spousal support or property division decisions. It's wise to be cautious about what you share, as it can directly influence the financial outcome of your divorce proceedings. Its hard to convince a judge that you can't afford guideline child support.
6. Avoiding Misinterpretations
Social media posts are often subject to interpretation, and what you intend as harmless or humorous could be misconstrued. These misinterpretations can be used against you in court, affecting custody arrangements, asset division, or other aspects of your divorce. Staying off social media eliminates the risk of your words being taken out of context.
7. Watch What Your Kids Post
As a parent, you're held liable for your children’s actions, and while social media is its own beast, it’s vital to monitor your child’s online presence during your divorce process. While it’s not meant to scare you, something as simple as your child complaining that you won’t let them out on a Friday night could turn into proof that your child doesn’t want to live with you. Even vulgar comments from friends could be used to show that your child is hanging out with the wrong crowd and might need to live with their more responsible parent.
8. Preventing Harassment
Social media can unfortunately be a platform for harassment or cyberbullying. During a divorce, you may be more vulnerable to such attacks, which can add to your stress and anxiety. Staying off social media protects you from potential online harassment and helps maintain your mental well-being.
9. Maintaining Professionalism
Your online presence can impact your professional life. Employers and colleagues may view your social media profiles, and negative or unprofessional posts could harm your reputation or career prospects. By keeping your posts positive and professional, you safeguard your professional image during a divorce.
It’s also important not to use social media at work. Anything that you use at work can be monitored and traced back to you. Therefore you’ll be held liable and considered irresponsible for taking time out of your employer’s paycheck to post petty things online.
10. Facilitating Settlement
A contentious social media presence can create animosity and hinder the negotiation process. By staying offline, you reduce the chances of escalating conflicts and increase the likelihood of reaching an amicable settlement. This can lead to a smoother divorce process and a faster resolution.
Posting on Social Media During a Divorce Can Have Far-Reaching Consequences
Additional Considerations:
- Confidentiality: Respect the confidentiality of your divorce proceedings by not sharing details online.
- Legal Advice: Consult with your attorney before posting anything related to your divorce.
- Mindful Sharing: If you must use social media, be mindful of what you share and consider the potential implications; try to think of others options.
Divorce is a time to focus on your future and heal from the past. Social media can complicate this process, so it's wise to take a step back and think before you post.
For more information and guidance on navigating your divorce process, visit Jeanne Browne's website.
Please Note: Articles posted on this website are for general information purposes only and are not to be considered legal advice. Every situation is unique and we recommend you reach out for a private conversation about your specific circumstances and concerns by booking a consultation.
Don't Get Tripped Up: Why Full Disclosure Matters in Dividing Property During Divorce
Divorce can be a whirlwind of emotions, and sorting through finances adds another layer of complexity. Especially when it comes to dividing property, things can get messy. While you and your ex might reach an agreement on how to split everything up, there's a crucial step many forget: full disclosure.
Here's why being completely transparent about your finances is key to a smooth and fair property division:
Transparency is King (or Queen)
California law takes fairness in divorce seriously. To ensure both spouses get their rightful share, there's a requirement for complete financial disclosure. This means laying everything on the table using specific forms like the Declaration of Disclosure (FL-140) and the Schedule of Assets and Debts (FL-142). Think of these like a financial roadmap, giving you and your ex (and the court, if needed) a clear picture of your financial situation.
Knowledge is Power (and Protection)
Disclosure isn't just about informing your ex. It safeguards you too! By being upfront about assets and debts, you eliminate the chance of one spouse hiding things to get a bigger slice of the pie. Plus, it gives the court a solid foundation for making a fair property division if you can't reach an agreement yourselves. If you skip disclosure, the entire agreement could be thrown out, even if you both thought it was fair at the time.
A Cautionary Tale: The Case of the Missing Millions
The story of the Marriage of Rossi (2001) shows just how serious things can get when assets are hidden. Ms. Rossi won a million-dollar lottery prize but kept it mum during the divorce, claiming it was separate property. Big mistake! The court ruled that her failure to disclose meant her husband got the entire jackpot. This case highlights that even assets you think might be separate need to be brought to light.
The Bottom Line: Don't Skip This Step!
Open communication through disclosure is a non-negotiable part of divorce. It protects both spouses and ensures a fair division of marital property. Remember the Rossi case? Don't let that be your story. If you're going through a divorce, prioritize transparency when dividing property. A consulting attorney helping you complete disclosure documents correctly will be worth every dollar spent. He or she navigates you through this important paperwork and makes sure you understand your rights and responsibilities.
Just remember, the law requires a fair split, and that can only happen if both parties play with all their cards face-up.
Explore your no-court divorce options and the prenuptial process in Santa Rosa and Sonoma County and schedule a confidential consultation with divorce lawyer Jeanne Browne. With more than 30 years of experience helping couples divorce without court through mediation and collaborative practice, she will give you compassionate legal advice on your issues related to family law, divorce, and prenuptial/postnuptial agreements. Click here to schedule a meeting.
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California’s First Big Crypto Divorce Case – DeSouza v. DeSouza
In a previous post, I gave you a simple introduction to a complex topic: cryptocurrency, and specifically, how cryptocurrency may be divided in a California divorce. In general terms, cryptocurrency is divided essentially the way any other digital asset such as gift cards, airline mileage, and downloaded media might be divided. However, because the value of crypto can fluctuate dramatically and frequently, and because this is a fairly new area, there is still a very small body of related case law upon which to draw, which means there are no hard and fast rules about how the court may choose to handle your case.
In one notable California divorce between Erica and Francis deSouza, the question of how to divide the millions of dollars of value in crypto became pretty complicated. The deSouza case is widely considered the first “big” crypto divorce case, and it’s worth looking at. If you find yourself feeling overwhelmed by the details, just push through—I promise the ending is worth it!
January 2013: Erica Is Granted a Temporary Restraining Order
When Erica filed for divorce in January 2013, she was also granted a temporary restraining order that prohibited Francis from “[t]ransferring, encumbering, hypothecating, concealing, or in any way disposing of any property, real or personal, whether community, quasi-community, or separate, without the written consent of the other party or an order of the court, except in the usual course of business or for the necessities of life.” In other words, Francis was required to obtain permission from Erica if he wanted to—among other things—buy or sell cryptocurrency or anything else.
April 2013: Francis Violates the Restraining Order and Buys Bitcoin
Just three months later, over the course of less than a week in April 2013, Francis purchased bitcoin in three separate transactions through a Japanese bitcoin exchange called Mt. Gox (this detail becomes very important later on). As it turns out, he did so without notifying or obtaining agreement from Erica.
Approximately $150,000 Spent on Three Bitcoin Purchases
First, Francis wired $45,000 to Mt. Gox to purchase bitcoins himself. Second, he had a friend named Wences Casares purchase $99,451 worth of bitcoin on his behalf and transfer it to his Mt. Gox account. Finally, he had another friend named Khaled Hassounah purchase $44,940 worth of bitcoin on his behalf, which he did, but the bitcoins were never transferred to Francis’s account and they remained with Mt. Gox. The bitcoins Francis purchased directly also remained with Mt. Gox. Only the bitcoins purchased on his behalf by Wences Casares were transferred from Mt. Gox to another digital wallet belonging to Francis.
February 2014: Mt. Gox Fails
Mt. Gox filed for bankruptcy in February 2014, coincidentally the same month Francis filed his preliminary schedule of assets and debts in the divorce, in which Francis disclosed his ownership of the bitcoins purchased the previous year. Whether he knew about the Mt. Gox bankruptcy at that time is unclear, but it IS clear he knew about the bankruptcy by May 2014.
September 2017: The Divorce is Settled
It was three years later when the divorce was finally settled. In September 2017, the court deemed the bitcoins community property to be divided equally between Erica and Francis. But it wasn’t until December when Erica sought her half of the bitcoins that Francis revealed that of the 1,062.21 bitcoins he had purchased, he had possession of only 613.53 of them, the rest having been lost in the Mt. Gox bankruptcy. This was also when he finally revealed to Erica and the court that he had used colleagues to make purchases on his behalf, that some bitcoins had been transferred from Mt. Gox to another digital wallet, and that some of the bitcoins had generated bitcoin cash and gold.
December 2017: The $150,000 Investment is Now Worth $21 Million
At this point, in December 2017, the bitcoins Francis had purchased for approximately $150,000 were worth an astounding $21 million. Notably, the bitcoins purchased by Khaleed Hassounah for about $45,000 had a value of $8 million...but they were gone.
As ordered by the court, Francis transferred Erica’s share of the bitcoins he had to Erica. But Erica sought post-judgment relief because she believed Francis had violated his restraining order and failed to meet his fiduciary responsibility to Erica with regard to his bitcoin investments.
October 2018: Francis Pays Out More Than He Bargained For
In October 2018, the court issued its ruling. The court found that Francis had breached the restraining order on several occasions by failing to disclose his bitcoin purchases and transfers and by having colleagues make purchases on his behalf. In fact, not only had he not disclosed the involvement of his proxies, but the court determined he had purposefully hidden this information from Erica until 2018. Francis also had breached his fiduciary responsibility to Erica by failing to inform Erica of the Mt. Gox bankruptcy as well as by failing to disclose the additional crypto cash and gold generated by his initial investments.
As a result, Francis was ordered to give Erica an additional $22,500 in cash, 249.445 bitcoins and the corresponding bitcoin cash and gold, and pay her attorney’s fees and costs in bringing the post-judgment motion.
It’s reasonable to infer that Francis was deliberately trying to hide assets from Erica after they had separated and trying to hide investments he hoped would appreciate in value and that he would not have to disclose to her. But by doing so, he ended up paying her far more than he would have if he had chosen to be transparent with her from the beginning. He violated the restraining order with his initial bitcoin purchases made without her permission, which was foolish enough. But he compounded his misdeeds over time by continuing to withhold information, even during the final stages of the divorce proceedings and settlement.
The Bottom Line
California courts do not look kindly upon those who try to hide assets from their soon-to-be ex-spouses. Despite what many think, cryptocurrency is not completely untraceable. In fact, there are forensic experts who specialize in tracing and tracking down crypto transactions, and they are quite expensive. If Erica had hired one, Francis would have had to pay those expenses too!
The lessons here are clear—follow court orders, never try to hide assets from your spouse, and if you do make a mistake or a bad move, don’t make matters worse with a string of lies and obfuscations. Such a strategy is likely to catch up with you in a California divorce court.
My recommendation is that whenever possible, keep the lines of communication open with your spouse and if you both are open to using mediation or a collaborative divorce process, do so. Every marriage that ends does so with a lot of complex feelings and emotions, and the way people often deal with those is by fighting about assets and property—and worse, about the kids. If you and your partner are willing to try to communicate, keep things civil, and work toward win-win outcomes, mediation and collaborative divorce are processes that can be quicker, less expensive, and more cathartic and productive than a courtroom battle.
Explore your no-court divorce options and the prenuptial process in Santa Rosa and Sonoma County and schedule a confidential consultation with divorce lawyer Jeanne Browne. With more than 30 years of experience helping couples divorce without court through mediation and collaborative practice, she will give you compassionate legal advice on your issues related to family law, divorce, and prenuptial/postnuptial agreements. Click here to schedule a meeting.
Please Note: Articles posted on this website are for general information purposes only and are not to be considered legal advice. Every situation is unique and we recommend you reach out for a private conversation about your specific circumstances and concerns by booking a consultation.
Creating Joyful Holiday Memories and Traditions for Kids After Parents Separate
When mom and dad are separated and living in different homes during the holidays, keeping things running smoothly for the children is challenging–but certainly possible! It’s worth putting in the extra effort to put aside any differences and bad feelings with your ex to ensure that you create joyful experiences and happy memories for your little ones during the holiday season. Here are some great tips for putting maximum happy into the holidays for you and your children.
Recitals, School Events, and Other Social and Family Gatherings
This time of year often has more events and celebrations where both you and your ex will be in the same room. You may feel some anxiety about that, and it’s natural. If your separation or divorce is relatively recent, you may even still be dealing with some negative feelings like anger and resentment toward your ex. Again, this is natural–but it’s critical that you learn to put those emotions to the side while you support your children. Kids of all ages need to know their parents’ love for them is bigger than their discomfort with the situation. Remember, your children are dealing with a lot of tough emotions too, so anything you can do to give them a pleasant and conflict-free holiday season is an act of selflessness that they will appreciate now and down the road.
Whenever possible, it’s a good idea to communicate at an age-appropriate level with your children and ask them what they want. If you and your ex will be attending your children’s band or theater performances, ask what their preferences are and accommodate them if possible. For example, some kids want their parents to sit together. Others want them to sit apart, but on the same side so they can see them both at the same time. Others might want parents to come to different showings, practices, or rehearsals, while some kids don't care one way or the other. Ask them. Be clear that you want to know what would make them most comfortable, but also be clear that you as parents will make the final decision.
Another good tip for parents attending performances year round is to promise your kids you won’t embarrass them! Have the kids make a list of things that would make them uncomfortable. You might be surprised to hear that standing up and clapping when no one else is, cheering loudly or shouting their name, waving, whistling, or asking for way too many pictures before or after the performance make them feel embarrassed. Your kids may also worry that you and your ex will fight or argue at the event, but they may not be able to express that. Always be reassuring about the fact that you are there to support them and you’ll do everything possible to make sure they have a good experience.
When it comes to parties, family gatherings, church socials, and other holiday events, you and your ex should engage in open communication about what would be best for your children. If you’re not comfortable being in the same room together yet, be honest about it. Then get creative. Perhaps you can attend the same event but at different times, one earlier and one later. Maybe you can split up the events so there’s a parent at each one. Be upfront with your kids about which events you’ll each be attending, but don’t overshare–children don’t need all the details and reasons their parents make the decisions they do. It’s a fine line and you’ll learn as you go–just take care never to speak ill of their other parent or make your discomfort your kids’ problem to worry about.
Be Flexible with Family Traditions
Treasured holiday traditions need more flexibility now. If you’re able to continue with specific traditions when the kiddos are at your place, that’s fantastic, but remember they may be struggling with bittersweet feelings that are difficult to articulate and deal with. Be sensitive to the fact that even though you’re making sugar cookies as a family like you always have, the whole family isn’t together, and that hurts. Check in with them and ask how they feel about continuing traditions that previously involved the whole family unit and be willing to make adjustments. Perhaps you can take an old family tradition and put a new spin on it. If you always baked and decorated sugar cookies together, maybe this year you can make gingerbread cookies instead. Or make the sugar cookies as usual but deliver some to the police station or elderly neighbors.
You won’t necessarily have your children with you on specific days tied to specific traditions, so be willing to be creative with the calendar. Maybe you won't be able to watch the Christmas parade on December 25 or the New Year’s Day parade on January 1, but you can record them and watch them together another day. Again, communication is key. If they watched the parade with their other parent already, ask if they want to watch it again or if they’d rather figure out something else fun to do.
You might feel disappointed about losing some of your treasured traditions to the other parent, but don’t make your kids feel bad or guilty. It’s okay to tell them how you feel. For example, you might say something like, “I watched the parade and even though I wish we could have seen it together, I knew you were watching it at your dad’s place and that made me happy. I bet you really liked the huge Paw Patrol float, didn’t you?” In this way, you’re being honest about missing them while still staying positive and connected.
Don’t make assumptions about which traditions your children may want to keep versus modify or surrender completely. Talk to them. Ask them what they want. The conversations might be a little difficult, but they’re important. Even if they have a hard time expressing their feelings, you should trust they will appreciate knowing their opinions matter to you.
This Is the Ideal Time to Start New Traditions
Now that the family unit at your place is “new,” this is the perfect time to start some fresh new ways of celebrating that won’t have any of the melancholy that might be attached to your old established traditions. Let the kids help with coming up with new ideas by looking for holiday events online or in the newspaper. There are probably tree lightings, craft fairs, Santa visits, and holiday plays and concerts in your area you’ve never attended before. Now is a great time to explore some of them!
While you’re brainstorming together about new holiday rituals, thinking of ways to incorporate service will help all of you get your minds off your own troubles as you bring joy to others. Take handmade cards to convalescent hospitals or senior centers. Participate in a Toys for Tots drive and let them take the toys to the fire station and meet the firefighters there. The possibilities are endless. If you or your kids have social media accounts, you might enjoy taking pictures to post online to encourage others to experience the joy of generosity and service.
The Bottom Line
Celebrating the holidays after a separation or divorce is fraught with challenges but also has the potential for creating wonderful new traditions and memories. Remember that while you’re dealing with lots of complex emotions, your kids are too, and they might not be able or ready to talk about them. Communication is key–between you and your children and between you and your ex. Do what you can to create positive experiences that will result in lasting memories of love, celebration, and giving so that the holiday season continues to be one you and your family look forward to.